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Tue Oct 3, 2006, 3:01 AM

Listening to: a crying kid across the street

What do you think about cross-processing?

I thought it was uber-cool when i first saw it on the internet and decided that i had to do it sooner or later .. Well, after the moscow trip i finally had one roll of slide-film crossed.
Looking at the results, i must say i kind of like the cross-process-thing in some of the shots, in others i think it just looks stupid and artsey and i'm asking myself whether it's something that one really shouldn't do one's poor slides, because it changes real color so much.

Then again, "real color", wtf? There is no real color in films or slides anyway.
I mean, each type of film gives colors totally different from all the others ... who is to say "this is truth" / "this isn't".
Apart from that - b&w is like THE most brutal possible change to "reality", i mean, reducing colors to black and white is like the harshest thing you can do to then. Still, it's the normal thing to do.

So I'm wondering about why cross-processing and thereby abstracting from reality feels weird while reducing colors to grey-scales feels just fine.

Thoughts on the topic, anyone?

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~Suzage Oct 3, 2006, 3:04:23 AM

A year ago I was really into crossing for a... week or so. I think it's nice for anything but portraits. I think the skintones are always horrible when crossing, although I've seen some nice subtle crossed portraits, like those of ~remyryan And I like the cross work of *dersunde too, but that's with colourcorrection.
Since I love shooting (spontaneous) portraits the most I don't think crossing suits what I do. And besides that I got kinda bored of it, it's a nice trick when you start with it, but it bores (me). It gets kinda gimmicky after while, catch my drift?

~Suzage Oct 3, 2006, 3:06:05 AM

Hmm, ~remyryan doesn't have the crossed portraits anymore in his gallery. If you're curious about 'em, check his older work on his website, good stuff I think.

~zort Oct 3, 2006, 3:25:04 AM

ich find crossen idiotisch - großteils. ich hab in meiner - ich liebe diesen ausdruck - photographischen laufbahn bisher 2 filme gecrosst (einen velvia50, der absolut verschissen wurde und einen kodak e100s, der nicht viel besser ist) und ja, ich kann wenig damit anfangen. ich würd gern mal einen film haben, der eindeutig fürs crossen gedacht ist und damit paar portraits schießen und dann allerdings die negative auch printen. nicht scannen - denk nämlich, dass das scannen von gecrossten negativen die eigentliche idee - das starke verändern der farbbalance - wieder umkehrt und verfälscht. jedenfalls war das bei mir so - bin ja aber auch kein künstler.

und im endeffekt ist es eh egal, ich bevorzug s/w, weil das herumscheißen mit farbe mir wirklich zu anstrengend ist.

~oye Oct 3, 2006, 6:57:57 AM

i do a lot of cross stuff (photoshop crossed, curves set) and i still dont know if i really like it or not. Because i find real colors boring aswell... gah

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~mergana Oct 3, 2006, 12:05:15 PM

I haven't tried yet. But will in the very near future, I'll tell you then.

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~frere Oct 4, 2006, 6:05:11 AM

good on you!

apart from that, are you going to do it digitally or analog-a-ly? (whatever

)

do you have a flickr account by the way?

and one last thing: what are you studying, again? i just realized i forgot and i'm curious.

~frere Oct 4, 2006, 6:08:26 AM

it's funny because that is sexactly (thank you bernhard

) what i said to someone today, and she replied that she thought that crossed colors were stupid not for being boring but for diverting attention from the real value the picture has.
like, she said that she thought that when you have a picture that is good for some nice facial expression or something, it will work in "normal" color or black and white, but it maybe won't work crossed because everybody only sees the flashy colors.

she's a clever girl.
sometimes

~frere Oct 4, 2006, 6:08:42 AM

it's funny because that is sexactly (thank you bernhard

she's a clever girl.
sometimes

~frere Oct 4, 2006, 6:15:28 AM

hmm, ja ich seh schon.
vielleicht bist du wirklich einfach nicht künstler genug.
oder zu sehr österreicher.

aber, mal im ernst, herr wachtmeister: welchen entwickler benutzt du für den tri-x und den tmax?
und was ist dein bevorzugtes papier?